- AL: Hello L: Hello AL: What is it? I’m freaking beat, Tecia L: what? AL: I’m beat. What, what do you want? L: so is it alright if tI talk to you? AL: I’m just beat, I’m just telling you I’m tired, go ahead, whatever L: Why are you tired? AL: Cause this is frickin’ stressful, my son’s out there missing and I don’t know what the hell’s going on L: We have people who are looking for the guy now AL: ok, the QB guy? L: Why do you keep saying the QB guy? Like it’s a joke? AL: I’m not, no I’m not what it the FBI, what it the frickin’ FBI Say? Are they looking for him now? L: Well I gave her my information and I also got a call at the same time which the attorney said he had just talked to El Paso and he was like you do not need to say another word to them so you need to hang the phone up because I’ve already clearly gave them this information and at this point in time he was like if they are not reaching out to help you then they’re doing nothing to help the investigation he said so he’s getting back on the phone with El Paso and El Paso’s supposed to be doing the ? because they’re the lead agency even though the FBI’s taking over, I mean FBI was watching, they’re not the lead agency so he said to communicate with El Paso and that’s exactly what he did
- AL: So the lawyer’s communicating with El Paso L: Right AL: Alright, alright. I’m trying to keep it all straight. But you did talk to the lady? That’s what you’ve been doing this whole time? L: Yes I did talk to her AL: Ok. Okay, you talked to her? L: Right, I talked to her and then the attorney was emailing me back and forth because the lady, this investigative reporter went back out there to this house and he told me do not say another word because El Paso is the lead agency and they could potentially be messing up the investigation and at the same time as much as you know he’s gonna be wanting to find Gannon he’s also making sure that no one else is interfering because he said that ? person that’s who needs to be doing it. He’s already sent the information to them AL: Okay
- L: He also already forwarded Nicole who went out there to his house, everything AL: Nicole? L: That’s the investigative reporter that he hired Nicole, her name’s Nicole AL: okay. You hired an investigative - L: I didn’t hire an investigative reporter, this is what whoever then the attorney is in contact with, an investigative reporter yes, I don’t know if you hire them, I don’t know if you pay them I don’t know what you do I just know she’s an investigative reporter AL: OK L: Why do you keep talking to me like that, like ok, like I’m on trial with you? AL: I’m just trying to listen to what you’re saying. So they went to find this QB did they find him? L: I don’t know if they did, El Paso is in charge they should be communicating with you the father AL: They’re, I haven’t heard anything from these people, have you talked to El Paso too or just Amber? L: I was instructed by the attorney that everything had been sent to El Paso who is the agency and I did exactly what I said I was gonna do AL: Okay. Okay.
- L: And I was on the phone with her and he said do not say another word cause I made sure that he was on the other line when I called her which is why I told her I’d call her back AL: Alright L: he said do not say another word AL: Ok L: for no reason so you shouldn’t be answering any questions that are not coming directly from El Paso AL: Okay, you said you forwarded the information but have you talked to anybody at the El Paso L: If I have an attorney do you think I talked to them or my attorney talked to them? AL: Okay Im sorry i’m just trying to piece it all together here you’re taking to this lady, you’re talking to that lady, you’re talking to Bethel, you’re talking to Katie, you’re talking to Amber L: ? investigative reporter is for me, like they are on my side AL: Okay L: the attorney obviously is on my side so that’s who the information will go through AL: Okay, what, so L: he reported it AC: Okay now that you got people on your side what can I do for you? What do you need me to do to help you get this information or whatever L: Help me get what information ? ? L: Okay, I mean what can I do to help you? What do you need me to do, just in general, nothing specific what do you need? You tell me
- L: I need you to be with your family so that when Gannon comes home we can all be together and stop putting me on trial, that’s what you can do for me in general you can show me some love you can show me everything that I’m showing you. I’ve showed you love, I told you, hey I missed you, I love you, oh my gosh I wanna be there to hold you, I wanna hug you, I wanna do all these things with you. That’s what you can do in general is to treat me that same way back because I have done that to you. I haven’t ? you, talked crap to you, I defended myself, just like I told you. You know good and well, I - AL: alright so L: ? going through, I understand the pain AL: Right L: I don’t know what you feel, I ? but I tried to be here for you and that’s what I want to continue to do is be here for you AL: Okay, well L: I also let the attorney know that I would ? you have to hire a private person they said that police don’t even do that because it’s not admissible, you can hire a private person to administer a lie detector test if I wanted to get those results to you AL: Ok, um so your attorney told you not to answer any more questions but does that mean me cause what if I have questions and we can just work through those like we’ve bene working through does that include me?
- L: no no no no no you told me if I talked to the lady and if I reported everything, you told me that I will have a meeting with you and your exact words were that we would go from there when we were done trying to find Gannon. That’s exactly what you said to me. You said we would move forward when - AL: Okay L: And be looking for Gannon that’s what you told me AL: Okay so what about the meeting L: Okay? AL: [whispering on his line] L: Here I am about the whole meeting part, either you’re in this with me and I’m in this with you or not that’s where I’m at with the meeting because I have done nothing wrong, I am not a criminal, I’m not a monster, I’m not someone that needs to be - AL: Alright well L: ? being treated ? AL: All that being said when can we meet and where can we meet? L: The meeting will be ? where we are staying at together to protect each other AL: Okay I didn’t say what the meeting was about, I said when and where Tecia L: Okay, that’s the meeting where are you staying? Why come we can’t come stay with you? If you have a place to stay that you’ve already paid for why are we sitting here having to be like ok ? let’s go to this hotel, why? AL: Okay, alright fair enough, where are you at?L: You just need to honestly answer, I don’t need anymore bullshit you talked about honesty what you wanted from me ok, so my honesty from you, wanted from you AL: Alright L: Why come we can’t get our clothes, I know we can’t bring ? we left them in storage but why come we can’t get together with our clothes where our families is staying okay and then we get on a mission whether we gotta get in the car, whether we need to be doing it ourselves ? Whatever that’s the plan I expect to hear from my husband not just ?? like I’m some side piece that you’re gonna meet, that’s not who I am AL: No, I didn’t say sidepiece and meet, I said meet up to talk about the truth and actually I mean I told you initially, no, please listen, please listen I’m not putting you down, I’m not being mean to you, ok, initially we talked about what the standard was and you know how I am about my standards. The standard is the truth and a meeting. Okay. In - L: ? the truth Albert, I’ve already told you AL: Okay that’s why I said what about the meeting, that’s why I started this conversation, let’s talk about the meeting but then there’s the truth L: you just said the meeting ? AL: No, I know L: ?? AL: no, listen to me, listen to me I’m trying to clarify for you ok, there’s another part of the truth that you haven’t told me like where you are, you’re not in the north end of Colorado Springs, ok, we’ve established that. Where are you? That’s some truth that you can let me know. L: ? I will tell you but if this gets out I swear it’s because you told it AL: Okay L: because nobody knew where we were at ? where we were at AL: Fair enough and I’ll stand by that, if somebody finds out where you are then you can blame me all day long and tell your lawyer that I’m some kind of criminal ok L: I’m not gonna tell ‘em that you’re criminal AL: I’m just saying ok L: I stayed in the Extended Stay America in the north end of ? we switched to one hotel what’d you say? AL: I said ok, ok L: We switched from one hotel to the next hotel then at that point in time I had no more money, nothing AL: Ok L: Like, nothing at all, I had people reach out to me on instagram and they were like hey why don’t you come here why don’t you come there? I don’t have a car, I don’t have anything, why do you think people are messaging you wanting to know where we’re at? ‘cause nobody fucking knows! No one knew this! So, Michelle reached out to your Facebook she’s a girl that I always talk about ? ? and how we always pass by ? I say hey my friend Michelle stays there and she sells cleaning products AL: Yeah right, I remember
- L: Ok Michelle has a big ass house out here in Monument and she has a building that ? it’s like an apartment over her garage and she let us come here two nights ago AL: Ok L: That’s why your dog cause she has dogs and we have dogs. Hello? I can’t stay here forever. I can’t stay here long. We can only stay here just basically for the time being because I’ve been trying to work without my husband and you think I like where do you think I got money to stay all these places like you act like I’m just like living it large staying at all these - I’m at the Hilton I mean AL: Alright listen L: We haven’t had anywhere. I’ll get in my real car and I'll Come to Michelle's house and get you, just send me an address L: And where are you taking me?> Cause I know you, you;ll try to play me and you’ll try to be like well you know whatever so am I coming to stay with you or are you coming to Michelle’s house just to ? and I need the truth AL: My intent would probably be just to meet, I don’t know if staying together’s a good answer now because of all the unknowns, ok L: Okay, well if you don’t wanna stay with me then that tells me that that’s not in the - you don’t want to be that picture perfect that you said back in December, that’s not what you AL: no, no don’t tell me what I want L: ? AL: I am! L: Give me ? truth why you don’t want me and Harley with you? AL: ‘Cause I want my son. ‘Cause I want my son. ‘Cause I want my son. The bottom line and until we get him - L: If I do this, why would you punish me? AL: Why is it an if? I don’t wanna do this. I don’t wanna do this. You wouldn’t tell me what you heard you wouldn’t tell me the whole truth for days and days for three weeks now, I’m willing to meet you, to stick out the olive branch as an effort for peace okay, okay because L: Peace? AL: Yes peace because you haven’t given me the truth until today you’ve gotten closer to the truth ok or maybe you gave me the whole truth today i dont know we’ll take it at that but I’m offering you a moment of peace, a time to meet, a time to talk, we can hug or whatever okay bu I don’t wanna stay together right now because then it’s gonna be constantly on my mind, it’s gonna be a fight, at least this way we can meet and talk and then we get time to cool down, think about it, that;’s what I’ve been doing every day trying to talk to you and then cool down and then answer you in the email if I can if I feel like it and then give it another shot the next day that’s exactly the same model I’m trying to teach you, not teach you try to do right now, ok, that’s it
- L: It doesn’t bother you that hey you know I should be providing somewhere for my wife, daughter and my other daughter and my son to live while we’re going through this? AL: right but we don't know where L: That doesn’t ? in your brain AL: It does L: ?? AL: It does L: don’t sugarcoat it A: there is no sugarcoat it, it does bother me that my family got ripped apart when my son was taken away okay? Yes, it absolutely bothers me L: so if you know ok that this dude has Gannon, took Gannon, why are you blaming me? Why are you, why would you AL: I didn’t blame you L: ? to lay down beside your wife AL: Listen, because the only reason, no the only thing I blame you for okay, the only proof I have right now to blame you for anything is you called in a runaway when you knew he wasn’t a runaway, that’s it okay. We can move past that, you were scared, freaked out, whatever, I’m not putting words in your mouth, that’s it L: ?? AL: Right, you called in a runaway, right I understand you were scared and freaking out ok, im just saying L: ? to hurt anybody AL: right and I didn’t wanna get lied to but I did so that;s something we gotta work through and that;s what I;m saying, we meet, we talk, we hang out, we grab a bite to eat, i dunno something stupid and then we take a breath ok, just like we’ve done the past couple days, we’re working our way up to a meeting now, we’ve been talking, we didn’t talk for two weeks ok, it’s baby steps here you’ve got to understand that my son is missing and I’ve gotta get through this little by little until he comes home and that story okay the runaway story the only thing that I know to blame you for right now, the only blame I point in your direction ok that caused a gap between us and I’ve said that numerous times there’s a gap between us and the only way to get back is babysteps ok and you’ve got to respect that ok
- L: you have to also realize that when someone is terrified they have to do, they act in the moment, do what they think, it’s the scaredness, don’t you have compassion for that? AL: I do, I have compassion for that L: ?? compassion AL: Listen, I have compassion L: ? rather sat in your room by yourself and not comfort each other every night you would rather that and then when Landen comes back you’ll see her every day and not your wife? L: But you gotta have compassion for me and a little bit of empathy on my perspective ok because of the runaway story ok the cops, the neighborhood, everybody searching spent days and days and days and we lost valuable time trying to find Gannon because of that story
- [long silence] AL: And now, ok, three weeks L: but I was still AL: No, now three weeks later ok I find out QB a sex offender has my son and the last story you told me was that somebody was trying to stick something up his butt and now I’ve gotta think about a sex offender having my son ok so now you got to have some compassion for me L: I do have compassion for you that’s why I wanted to be with you to hold you AL: No, that;s what you want, ok L: I know I just said that! AL: having compassion for me is not telling me what you want, having compassion for me is respecting what I need and I need babysteps right now and the next babystep is I’m willing to meet you ok I’m willing to meet, that’s the babystep but you know you need to send me an address on where you’re at and I’ll come to you and we can meet and if that’s unacceptable then
- L: you kicked me off the insurance and you’ve got a car? AL: Listen, I’m talking about babysteps to get us closer to Gannon and to family ok. Meeting me is that next babystep if you can’t send me an address where you and Harley are or at least you’re at L: ? and now you’ve got a car ? AL: I told you I got a rental car, one of my family members helped me out with a rental car so I could search for Gannon and I could do what I have to do ok but if you can’t L: Why is there a name on the insurance then why ? AL: If you can’t, we can talk about all that. That can be part of our meeting but if you can’t meet me, if you can’t tell L: Why won’t you just tell me why is there ?? car ? AL: Alright here we go. I wanna meeting you keep changing the subject, so we’re gonna have to take a three or four steps backwards from this point ok L: No, I wanna do the meeting I just want to know did you let them take my car? AL: Who? Who take what car? L: there’s two rental cars AL: I don;t have two rental cars, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You got somebody trying to PI me or something? What two rental cars you talking about L: No I just - you said they had a rental car and you had a rental car! AL: Who’s they? L: You just said Landen had a rental car AL: Oh, yeah Landen okay listen, I don;t know what the hell Landen’s got going on, her aunt Veronica’s got all that money and they went to Texas, that’s all I know okay whether they still got a rental car or not I don’t know that’s all been from her aunt Veronica. I had to get my family to help me out ok. And that’s all that matters here so I’m giving you the truth, I’m ready for the truth about where you’re at, the address of where you’re at so we can have the meeting. If not, like I said we’re taking some steps backwards and we’ll try again tomorrow and that’s kind of where I’m at right now in this moment L: ? steps backwards because if I just wanted to be with you? That would be steps ? When you just told me to have compassion so I’m just sitting here trying to talk to you AL: Ok Tecia listen here we are L: ? Steps backward when I’m just asking. Just tell me, are you trying to be with somebody else? Just tell me AL: am I trying to be with somebody else when my son’s out there missing? So here we go changing subject, we change the subject back to Tecia now, alright L: no I just want to know the truth cause I want AL: Well I wanna know the truth you never answered my question about what you heard ok so I wanna know the truth too but you know what I bent a little bit, I bent a little bit more and now I’m bending, now I’m bending again, no listen, now I’m bending about and saying, now I’m bending again and saying listen, I know you're just not gonna answer my questions so let’s meet but thats L: Ok I’ll answer your questions if you don’t yell at me. Don’t yell at me and don’t scream at me. AL: The question of what you heard
- L: ? you ask a question you let me answer it and stop interjecting and treating me like I’m on trial AL: Absolutely, you got it
- L: Now go. AL: What did you hear in the moment that there was bleeding and everything going on. What you heard., that was the question you didn’t answer. L: I’m trying to finish. The police had left okay, I put Harley and Laina upstairs in the room, told them don’t come out. Nothing terrible bad nothing had happened at that point in time. I was still terrified. If I mentioned to the police, if I sent a note, if I did anything, I didn’t know what was gonna go wrong. I told you this 17 times, I’ve told them this. You can ask me why didn’t I do thinks differently I was fucking scared ok. Scared! Went back downstairs okay. I didn;t have, we didn’t have a safe, we didn’t have money. I told him that we didn’t have a safe, told him that we didn’t have money. I was saying no, we didn’t have a safe and I wasn’t saying it in this tone like no, whatever ? gonna be reliving all of it like that, no we don’t have a safe, no we don’t have this. I couldn’t get your gun up there to work, I tried, there were no bullets to the shotgun and I couldn’t get the other gun to work or I was gonna run back downstairs and frickin light his ass up. That was my mind, that was what I was gonna do. Couldn’t get it to work. Ran back downstairs, girls are upstairs, I knew I had two of our three children safe. And If I would tell you this you’d be like well why was it two of them and not all of them, why was it not this one and not that one? People are not realizing that I Didn't pick and choose okay .Come back in there, plead again about I would do anything, money whatever it may be, ok ? jewelry, I offered every single thing that there was. He kept saying we had a safe and I kept saying we didn’t have a safe, he grabbed me, pulled me back into the storage room, my hands were tied, I already told you this, 17 times again, my hands were tied, completely. Harley, Laina upstairs either sleeping whatever they were it was late night at this point in time, 11, 12, midnight, whatever it may have been. I left Haley a note on the counter that said please recall police gave her the word that we always say is the code word, what is the word that we always say is the code word ?? whenever there was trouble
- AL: Desperado L: Right. I always pick when harley you ever heard of that word ? trouble right, she didn’t catch on to what I was saying which I can’t blame her, she doesn’t, she’s sometimes ditzy. Didn’t catch on to what I was saying. Nothing. I called you back. I called you back with him sitting there! You didn’t answer, not your phone. I was in my mind thinking if I said Albert, the code word, he might at least think something anything. But no you could’ve been on the phone, I don’t know. All I hear is Gannon screaming. He’s yelling at me to shut up ‘cause he’s standing ? ? I did hear a loud noise as if Gannon hit something. I’m screaming, I’m sitting there trying to like make noises because if they’re above me then maybe someone will hear it on the wood pieces. Nobody helped. Nothing came. No one. No one came for anything. When I came back from hitting my head which was hit on that wood piece that’s in our storage room, Gannon was gone. I freaked out. I get in my car which I’m sure they’ve probably seen on camera! Did I get in my car? Drive maybe once or twice around the neighborhood thinking you know what in the hell am I gonna do now? Albert’s gonna fucking kill me, everybody’s gonna kill me, that’s all I kept thinking and Gannon’s gone. And I haven’t slept in how many days reliving how if I could have done something, I’m not gonna go fight somebody with a gun with a knife. I don’t know how they left. I don’t know. And the only reason I even know who it was is I told you about the badge. ? is I had nightmares every flipping night who it was. Images in my mind. Pictures. Over and over and over and over and over again. And again and again. Can I do anything about it? No. It didn’t matter whether I said someone was, something happened, it didn’t matter what I said in that moment. My mind immediately went to oh my god. You hear about this, I look on the neighborhood App all the time ? in your brain you plan if something was to happen what you’re gonna do and then you can’t your body don’t let you. I’m not a person who even remotely tried to be a badass with a gun All of it ran through my mind. How am I gonna go find Gannon? How am I gonna go do this? We gotta get help, resources and then if I say hey you know this fucker was in our home ? ? ? all they’re gonna tell me is I’m fucking crazy and need mental help. I need to see a psychiatrist or some fucking shit. That’s all that’s gonna be told to me. So I went the very next day so no one wasted resources. I went the very next day, that morning, I mean that afternoon. When I talked to them I explained to them exactly what I told you. AL: Hey Tecia, Tecia, Tecia hold on, hold on, hold on listen this is the worst fucking story yet alright, I’m done with this shit